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Round One

Poll6101
Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 6101
Division Division 7
Match # 51
Match Date Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Oracle
Expectations
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 63.99%
93 for - 3 against
GameFAQs
Prediction
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 78.63%

Didn't I just go on a massive rant about how Shenmue getting 38% on GTA5 was hilarious, if not completely ridiculous compared to how the real world would vote? If you polled regular people for this contest, you could make the case GTA5 would actually win the thing. Both games being unable to break 65% on absolute fodder trash, on the same day no less, would be unheard of anywhere else.

And yet here we are on the very same day, watching another Grand Theft Auto title just completely piss all over itself in a contest match. This series underperforming even in wins is just comical at this point, to the point where the Oracle called San Andreas underperforming and still overshot how well it would do in this match. I'm sure Shovel Knight is an ok game, I even got it for NG as an early Christmas present on Steam, but let's not pretend it would come close to breaking 40% on GTA without benefiting from a hilarious number of anti-votes. San Andreas lost the board vote badly, and was lucky to break 60% at all. This spawned a lot of RacistFAQs jokes, and when teamed up with how badly GTA5 was doing in its own right, the SMRPG > Oblivion match, and the Chrono Cross > WoW upset all going on at the same time, it made for an absolutely hilarious 24 hours. The funny thing is Chrono Cross > WoW was probably the funniest thing of all. As bad as the two GTA games did on this day, at least they won their matches. WoW didn't even get that much . Two GTA games hilariously underperform at the same time, yet this fact can't even get top headlines. This has to be a whole new level of "lol GTA" that one couldn't even think possible until actually seeing this nonsense happen. Funniest round 1 contest day ever, or at least this was all damn close.

Ctes's Analysis[]

This was another pretty disappointing performance from GTA. I think people had concluded before this match that it was an advantage to have two games from the same franchise in the poll at the same time, but I'm honestly not sure that's the case when it's something as heavily anti-voted as GTA. San Andreas was obviously never going to lose this one, but it was the board favorite to lose in round 2. This match didn't really change that either. Shovel Knight is a really great game, but an indie game nevertheless. It wasn't going to do well today. Don't say anything about Undertale, it was losing easily to Mass Effect 3. It's really nice to see the exposure Shovel Knight has gotten, the producers did a really bad job with releasing its amiibo, but getting an amiibo in itself was pretty huge. It's great to see it get into the contest and actually put up a respectable percentage today too. It's a bit difficult to judge it due to a bunch of it likely being anti-votes, but it looks relatively good, so let's just give it that praise as it exists. 

As for San Andreas, it sure has fallen, but it was already clear five years ago, so obviously it has only gotten worse. San Andreas lost to Golden Sun back in 2010 and a recent chunk of the board actually predicted it, think it was 20% or so. San Andreas only needed a half strong opponent to lose in a similar fashion, Shovel Knight was just a tad too weak. It might've won a match if it got a lucky bracket placement, but it was means to lose in round 1. 

San Andreas won Game of the Year in 2004 on GameFAQs. Competition was not at its best that year, but I don't think it would win today. It beat a bunch of sequels in the final poll, Half-Life 2, Halo 2 and Metroid Prime 2 to be more specific, and I don't even think it would win that today, though it would likely beat Halo 2. The thing with GTA is that it is apparently too mainstream for GameFAQs' tastes. And not in the same way Mario or Pokemon is mainstream, but mainstream to casual gamers and not actual gamers. So for GameFAQs' voters, which are almost only actuals, it is just frowned upon, because while most of them might enjoy it, it's just not as great as reviews make it to be. The fall is similar to Call of Duty. San Andreas is a contender for strongest GTA and couldn't double Shovel Knight. Yet after failing to do that it's still a contender for strongest GTA game. Maybe some years from now the hate will die down a bit, but for a while, you shouldn't expect anything from this franchise.

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2015 Contest Matches

Round One
CT > R&C:UYA
DQVIII > P3
MMX > Batman:AC
FFX > HL1
Melee > Portal
Pokemon GSC > TWEWY
KHII > MGS4
TLoU > Halo 3
FFVI > ACII
TTYD > ToS
KotOR > Xenogears
Zelda:WW > Pokemon X/Y
Smash Wii U > Planescape
ME > SMG2
Halo > Minecraft
FFVII > Journey
SMB3 > AoE2
Pokemon RBY > Tetris
Sonic 2 > Portal 2
Uncharted 2 > Walking Dead
Fallout 3 > Life is Strange
Undertale > ME3
FFVIII > GTA:VC
SMW > AC:NL
Skyrim > PW:AA
GE007 > Diablo II
Metroid Prime > Morrowind
HL2 > Demon's Souls
Mario 64 > MK8
FFT > RE2
Zelda:TP > SoA
Persona 4 > 999

Zelda:OoT > Hearthstone
Suikoden II > MH4U
Okami > Warcraft III
FFIX > KH1
DKC2 > Xenoblade
FE:A > Mario Maker
BK > Baldur's Gate II
SotN > PW:T&T
Zelda:LttP > Cave Story
FFIV > Deus Ex
MGSV > Perfect Dark
Dark Souls > Civ V
Super Metroid > CoD4
Mario Galaxy > DA:O
FFXII > Bloodborne
Zelda:MM > Valkyria
GTAV > Shenmue
SMRPG > Oblivion
GTA:SA > Shovel Knight
CC > WoW
Witcher 3 > Isaac: Rebirth
MGS2 > RE
Fallout:NV > BioShock Inf
RE4 > Paper Mario
MGS > Splatoon
EB > Borderlands 2
SotC > TF2
RDR > Bayonetta 2
MGS3 > Mother 3
BioShock > SH2
Starcraft > Destiny
ME2 > VLR

Round Two
CT > DQVIII
FFX > MMX
Melee > Pokemon GSC
KHII > TLoU
FFVI > TTYD
Zelda:WW > KotOR
Smash Wii U > ME
FFVII > Halo
Pokemon RBY > SMB3
Sonic 2 > Uncharted 2
Undertale > Fallout 3
SMW > FFVIII
Skyrim > GE007
Metroid Prime > HL2
Mario 64 > FFT
Zelda:TP > Persona 4
Zelda:OoT > Suikoden II
FFIX > Okami
DKC2 > FE:A
SotN > BK
Zelda:LttP > FFIV
Dark Souls > MGSV
Super Metroid > SMG
Zelda:MM > FFXII
SMRPG > GTAV
CC > GTA:SA
MGS2 > Witcher 3
RE4 > Fallout:NV
MGS > EB
SotC > RDR
MGS3 > Bioshock
ME2 > Starcraft

R3 and following
CT > FFX
Melee > KHII
FFVI > Zelda:WW
FFVII > Smash Wii U
Pokemon RBY > Sonic 2
Undertale > SMW
Skyrim > Metroid Prime
Mario 64 > Zelda:TP
Zelda:OoT > FFIX
SotN > DKC2
Zelda:LttP > Dark Souls
Zelda:MM > Super Metroid
SMRPG > CC
RE4 > MGS2
MGS > SotC
MGS3 > ME2
Melee > CT
FFVII > FFVI
Undertale > Pokemon RBY
Mario 64 > Skyrim
Zelda:OoT > SotN
Zelda:LttP > Zelda:MM
SMRPG > RE4
MGS3 > MGS
Melee > FFVII
Undertale > Mario 64
Zelda:OoT > Zelda:LttP
SMRPG > MGS3
Undertale > Melee
Zelda:OoT > SMRPG
Undertale > Zelda:OoT



Melee > SMRPG

Grudge Matches
CT > FFVI
Pokemon RBY > Mario 64


Zelda:OoT > FFVII

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