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Frog/Master Chief was one of the highlights of the 2004 Character Battle

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Summer 2004 Contest
Announced: Earlier than July 2, 2004
Started: August 1, 2004
Ended: October 3, 2004
Winner: Link
Contest Winner: Balrog0 - 191 points
Notable matches: Frog/Liquid, Ryu H/Jill, Link/Ganon

Snake/Tanner, Frog/MC, Snake/Frog

Summer 2004 Contest was the third Summer Contest on GameFAQs. It is generally considered one of the most disappointing Contests, as it was filled with Same Fanbase Factor problems and did not produce many very exciting matches.

Hyrule DivisionLink
Mega Man
Link
Cloud
Link
(1) Link
(16) CATS
Link
Ganondorf
Link
Yoshi
Link
Crono
(8) Ganondorf
(9) Alucard
(5) Yoshi
(12) Ryo Hazuki
Yoshi
Luigi
(4) Luigi
(13) Pac-Man
(6) Magus
(11) Luca Blight
Magus
Crono
Crono
Mario
(3) Crono
(14) Conker
(7) Bowser
(10) Guybrush Threepwood
Bowser
Mario
(2) Mario
(15) JC Denton (Deus Ex)
20XX Division
(1) Mega Man
(16) Earthworm Jim
Mega Man
Tidus
Mega Man
Zero
Mega Man
Snake
(8) Tidus
(9) Shadow the Hedgehog
(5) Tommy Vercetti
(12) Max Payne
Tommy V.
Zero
(4) Zero
(13) Protoman
(6) Frog (Chrono Trigger)
(11) Liquid Snake
Frog
M. Chief
Frog
Snake
(3) Master Chief
(14) Crash Bandicoot
(7) Kefka
(10) Knuckles the Echidna
Knuckles
Snake
(2) Solid Snake
(15) Tanner (Driver)
Midgar DivisionCloud
Samus
(1) Cloud Strife
(16) Duke Nukem
Cloud
Vyse
Cloud
Squall
Cloud
Sephiroth
(8) Vyse
(9) Laharl (Disgaea)
(5) Kirby
(12) Kain (Legacy of Kain)
Kirby
Squall
(4) Squall Leonhart
(13) Bomberman
(6) Ness (Earthbound)
(11) Jak
Ness
Auron
Auron
Sephiroth
(3) Auron
(14) Scorpion
(7) Vivi
(10) Donkey Kong
Vivi
Sephiroth
(2) Sephiroth
(15) Sly Cooper
Chaos Division
(1) Sonic the Hedgehog
(16) Terry Bogard
Sonic
Ryu (SF)
Sonic
Dante
Sonic
Samus
(8) KOS-MOS
(9) Ryu (Street Fighter)
(5) Viewtiful Joe
(12) Miles "Tails" Prower
Tails
Dante
(4) Dante
(13) Ratchet
(6) Sora
(11) HK-47 (Star Wars KOTOR)
Sora
Ryu H.
Sora
Samus
(3) Ryu Hayabusa
(14) Jill Valentine
(7) Sam Fisher
(10) Gordon Freeman
Sam F.
Samus
(2) Samus Aran
(15) Lara Croft

Results and Analysis Edit

Interesting Facts Edit

  • 2004's Ultimate Loser was Viewtiful Joe. Joe lost to Tails, who lost to Dante, who lost to Sonic, who lost to Samus, who lost to Cloud, who lost to Link
  • Only 9 of the 64 characters in this contest haven't appeared in a battle since 2004

Ulti's Analysis Edit

With the Spring Contest still fresh in everyone's mind, we barely had any break from the contest setting whatsoever. CJayC waited until August 1st to start the Summer 2004 Contest, but nominations for the contest were open a full month and a half ahead of time. We had all of two weeks of offseason, but it was little more than a breath of air than it was an offseason.

This year's Summer Contest was set up different than in the past in that instead of the four cardinal directions being the names of the divisions, CJayC decided to name the divisions after their 1 seeds. It was a good idea on paper, but it wound up not giving us a very good bracket. With named divisions come characters within the divisions based off of that name, and in the end you're left with a disguised company-based bracket. It made for a very boring contest featuring a ton of Same Fanbase Factor matchups that look good on paper, but in reality lead to nothing more than predictability as we got thing rolling along.

The aftermath of this match was rather small, and had more to do about the future of the contest than the contest that had just taken place. This contest, to put it bluntly, sucked. It was too predictable, and the only reason we didn't have any zero/perfect brackets were because of stupid mistakes. There was a very small number of surprises, and even the matches that surprised us went the way they were supposed to. We had five people finish one point off of a perfect bracket, and the lowest score on the leaderboard was 188. The winner of the Spring Contest scored 185 points, but in SC2K4, that score isn't good enough to even sniff the leaderboard.

Two polls were held after the Summer 2004 Contest were over, and both of them cater to something new being needed next year. Personally, we don't need any drastic changes. Just retire Cloud and Link and put some time into making a decent bracket. The contests are fine, just not this one.

I touched base upon this during my finals analysis, but I'll say it again. This contest sucked. It was too predictable, and even the matches that could have been deemed a surprise were not a surprise. Sure, none of us expected Tails to take down Viewtiful Joe, but were we really surprised to see it happen? Aside from Frog and Ryu Hayabusa's matches, there was nothing worth watching in this contest, and there was nothing whatsoever of excitement after the first two rounds. We need a better bracket, and if we are to leave Cloud and Link in, we need to handicap them. The way things went in this contest are simply unacceptable, and something needs to be done. And no, we don't need tag teams or threesomes. We simply need a well-done bracket and something to be done about Cloud and Link. This contest was once the greatest thing about this site, but it's turned into something that half the site no longer cares about.

Ngamer's Analysis Edit

Ugh, just ugh. CJay takes a ton of crap for putting together this bracket (which makes sense, since it was awful), but really, this was the Contest we asked for. There had been some ugly SFF in the Spring, but we thought that was pretty much a games-only thing; in fact, plenty of this board was pulling hard for Ganon back in '03 because we thought a Link/Ganon fight would be really cool to watch, and so when it was set up here for the next year we were happy. '04 gets partially bailed out because Cloud's upset the year before helped keep the Final interesting, and at least we were seeing the 2 strongest characters go at it in the Championship for the first time ever, but eh... in all honestly only Frog's amazing run keeps this Contest out of the bottom of the barrel.

2004 Summer Contest Matches

Round One
Link > CATS
Ganondorf > Alucard
Yoshi > Ryo Hazuki
Luigi > Pac-Man
Magus > Luca Blight
Crono > Conker
Bowser > Guybrush
Mario > JC Denton
Mega Man > Earthworm Jim
Tidus > Shadow
Vercetti > Max Payne
Zero > Protoman
Frog > Liquid
Master Chief > Crash
Knuckles > Kefka

Snake > Tanner
Cloud > Duke
Vyse > Laharl
Kirby > Kain
Squall > Bomberman
Ness > Jak
Auron > Scorpion
Vivi > Donkey Kong
Sephiroth > Sly Cooper
Sonic > Terry Bogard
Ryu > KOS-MOS
Tails > VJ
Dante > Ratchet
Sora > HK-47
Ryu H > Jill
Sam Fisher > Gordon
Samus > Lara

Round Two
Link > Ganondorf
Yoshi > Luigi
Crono > Magus
Mario > Bowser
Mega Man > Tidus
Zero > Vercetti
Frog > Master Chief
Snake > Knuckles
Cloud > Vyse
Squall > Kirby
Auron > Ness
Sephiroth > Vivi
Sonic > Ryu
Dante > Tails
Sora > Ryu H
Samus > Sam Fisher

R3 and following
Link > Yoshi
Crono > Mario
Mega Man > Zero
Snake > Frog
Cloud > Squall
Sephiroth > Auron
Sonic > Dante
Samus > Sora
Link > Crono
Mega Man > Snake
Cloud > Sephiroth
Samus > Sonic
Link > Mega Man
Cloud > Samus
Link > Cloud (Finals)

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