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Results[]

Round Two

Poll3478

Saturday, May 9th, 2009

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 3478
Round Division 1972-1988 Semi Final
Match # 33
Match Date Saturday, May 9th, 2009
Oracle
Expectations
Tetris - 38.15%
Mega Man 2 - 29.13%
Pac-Man - 18.41%
Donkey Kong - 14.15%
GameFAQs
Expectations
Tetris first place (4pts) - 53.14%
Tetris second place (2pts) - 15.55%
MM2 second place (4pts) - 24.48%
MM2 first place (2pts) - 12.80%
Advancing
Prediction
Tetris - 68.69% (26,306)
Mega Man 2 - 37.28% (14,277)

I refuse to call a round 2 "divisional semifinal" in a fourway contest, regardless of whether it actually is. It's round 2.

Anyway, this was one of those rare matches where both sides of an argument got to be correct. Tetris people pretty much figured Mega Man 2 would get killed, especially after the first round. Mega Man fans insisted it still had a good chance to win. In the end, we kind of got the best of both worlds. Tetris did not SFF Mega Man 2 here, but it won quite handily and was never threatened past the first few minutes. It wasn't a complete killing as some predicted, but it was a handy win nonetheless. Still, Mega Man 2 looked decent here given the first round made it look like he would just get crushed.

It's impossible to really say what if any role SFF played in this match, but it didn't matter too much. There was a decent battle for third place for a bit, but Pac-Man pulled through in a clear case of... SFFing a puzzle game in the face of Puzzle SFF? I dunno. This was our second straight legendarily boring match, so there's not much I can say here. Expected result, less than expected percentages. Simple and to the point, much like what this match was after Mega Man kept it even for a couple minutes.

Match Trends[]

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Ngamer's Same Day Analysis[]

Match Prediction[]

I absolutely adore the match pic! This format allows our artists soooo much more freedom than trying to cram everything into those skinny vertical rectangles, and you can see how much the product is improved by giving them that extra breathing room. I've heard people saying that DK or Pac is going to collapse in this one, but with perfect, super-nostalgic pictures of their most popular levels like that I just can't see it. MM2 is also vastly improved from last round (though it would have been hard to get any worse), but I don't think it catches the eye quite like the bottom two. As for Tetris, ehh, I think it would have done better with a screen of the blocks actually dropping rather than that title screen.

Pic aside, the case for Mega Man in this one is that it has a more "hardcore" fanbase than these other ancient options and also that it stands out as the only game with semi-"modern" gameplay unlike the arcade options. And for the most part I buy into that argument. Where I disagree is when folks start claiming that Tetris is sure to fold against any kind of respectable competition. In a 1v1 setting, sure, but it seems to me that "joke appeal" wasn't the only reason L-Block was so successful in this 4way format. Part of his great run needs to be tied back to what an independent and un-LFFable entrant he was, something that Tetris should have going for it as well- when it gets to a choice between Zelda 1 and Mario 1 and Tetris, I could see a good chunk of voters jumping on the "anti-Nintendo" option, especially when it doesn't have to split its Game Boy appeal with anyone while MM2/Mario/Zelda all fight over the NES.

I'm getting a little ahead of myself here, but suffice it to say that even though MM2 should redeem itself with a slightly better showing in this one (signalling good things for MM3!), I fully expect Tetris to show us that last round was no fluke by taking this match going away. And as mentioned, the pic probably helps the bottom two options not get totally blown out. Which would result in

  • Tetris - 37.20%
  • Mega Man 2 - 30.46%
  • Pac-Man - 18.65%
  • Donkey Kong - 13.69%

Looks... okay, I guess!

Next Day Review[]

Oh wow, and now this latest poll wasn't even able to scrape past the 100k mark until the final 30 minutes of voting. The apathy created by keeping all of these extremely similar games cornered into the same packs is palpable; MIX THE ERAS NEXT TIME, SB. Alright, I'll stop mentioning that now. Not a fantastic result for me today as I was expecting DK to hold up a little bit better, though on the plus side I was almost spot-on with the Tetris/MM2 split... yeah, not too much to say about this match other than that thanks to the pathetic level of interest shown (Tetris looks like it won't even manage 40k votes despite winning easily) I've lost a ton of confidence in my "Tetris over one of the Big Two" upset bid for next round!

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2009 Spring Contest Matches

Round One
Tetris > Donkey Kong
MM2 > Pac-Man
SMB > Ninja Gaiden
Zelda 1 > Metroid
Sonic 1 > SFII
SMB3 > Monkey Island
SMW > FF
FFIV > MM3
S.Metroid > SMK
Zelda:LttP > DKC
FFVI > Zelda:LA
Sonic 2 > MKII
GE007 > SMRPG
FFVII > MK64
SM64 > SotN

CT > Yoshi's Island
Pokémon RBY > Zelda:MM
MGS > Pokémon GS
FFVIII > Starcraft
Zelda: OoT > FFIX
FFX > MGS2
KH > GTA:VC
Diablo II > Halo
SSBM > Zelda:WW
Oblivion > ToS
MGS3 > WoW
RE4 > KHII
Zelda: TP > Half-Life 2
SSBB > GTAIV
CoD4 > SMG
MGS4 > Portal
Fallout 3 > Halo 3

Round Two
Tetris > MM2
SMB > Zelda 1
SMB3 > Sonic 1
SMW > FF IV
Zelda:LttP > S.Metroid
FFVI > Zelda:LA
FFVII > GE007
SM64 > CT
MGS > Pokémon RBY
Zelda:OoT > FFVIII
FFX > KH
SSBM > Diablo II
MGS3 > Oblivion
Zelda:TP > RE4
SSBB > CoD4
MGS4 > Fallout 3

R3 and following
SMB > Zelda 1
SMB3 > SMW
Zelda:LttP > FFVI
FFVII > SM64
Zelda:OoT > Pokémon RBY
SSBM > FFX
Zelda:TP > RE4
SSBB > MGS4
SMW > SMB3
FFVII > Zelda:LttP
Zelda:OoT > FFX
MGS4 > SSBB
FFVII > Zelda:LttP
Zelda:OoT > FFX
Zelda:OoT > FFVII (Finals)
Zelda:OoT > FFVII (Bonus)

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